Tuesday, January 15, 2008

Question Option #1

Is nonfiction the truth more than fiction?

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

In my mind the definition of nonfiction is a story/novel containing events and experiences that have already taken place in reality. Nonfiction and fiction are very similar however. Most fictional novels are realistic and plausible, and many times authors create their stories based off of real life experiences. For example young adult author Meg Cabot writes stories about first love and awkward romance because of her teenage love life. But just because her novels have realistic plot lines, does not make them nonfiction.
The Life of Pi had many parallels with the biography Adrift (the dorados, thirst, diary-writing, etc) But this still does not change the fact that The Life of Pi was imagined and Adrift truly took place. The last point I wanted to make was that when a person reads a book that is labeled as nonfiction, he or she is more inclined to believe what's on the written page. The experiences seem 'more real' because according to the nonfiction label they have truly occurred in real life. A person can read a similar novel that is labeled as fiction but the events within the book may be more debatable and seen as pure fantasy because it is a fictional work.
Both fiction and nonfiction contain truths but it's a matter of whether or not the reader believes in them.--Simster

Anonymous said...

Group 2( sam,just,carl)
Almost everyone knows that nonfiction is any story or piece of writing that depicts or tells an exact truth and fact. Fiction can be the entire opposite most at times but sometimes fiction can include a little bit of truth but with a little bit of exaggeration on the facts and addition of other features that tend to make the writing or story unreal.We have all read many books and novels, and most of them are fiction because nonfiction stories tend to be biographies of real people who lived and experienced events and ordeals. Fiction stories are the most because writers and authors are creative and are continually imagining and fabricating storylines to make their work more interesting. In this case the author is free to say or describe whatever he or she wants and this is the reason why fiction is more out there. To write a nonfiction story, the author has to make sure that all information and research is accurate because it is the truth that he wants to send out. There is more truth in nonfiction than fiction but at times they can be similar because talented authors take in real life experiences and turn it to stories with fictional or unreal characters. So how can one really know if a nonfiction-labeled book is really all the truth? It isn't easy to know but sometimes we can grasp a hint from the descriptions and climaxes in the story. It is much easier to figure it out when a story is told orally, especially by the one who has had the experience because he or she displays the emotions with the story by certain gestures that go with the story. So in this case it is easy to say that nonfiction has more truth than fiction but is it always that case?

Anonymous said...

DA RAP GAME!!!!!
It can never be clear whether nonfiction is the truth more than fiction. The Life of Pi is an excellent example because in the book, fiction can be a symbolism of what is really true. If it symbolizes something that is true, then, the fiction must tell the truth also. Mr. Okamoto noticed this symbolism and explained it to Mr. Chiba, “Both the zebra and the Taiwanese sailor broke a leg, did you notice that… and the hyena bit off the zebra’s leg just as the cook cut off the sailor’s… the blind Frenchman they met in the other lifeboat- didn’t he admit to killing a man and a woman… the cook killed the sailor and his mother… His stories match… the Taiwanese sailor is the zebra, his mother is the orangutan, the cook is… the hyena- which means he’s the tiger… the tiger killed the hyena- and the Frenchman- just as he killed the cook” (Martel 311). This shows how Pi was able to use everyone and make them an animal in order to show the truth in a different way. Therefore, both can be true, but in a different way. This point made the group think about Maus because the book has to be called nonfiction because it is a comic book, but it is absolutely real. It is all based on true facts and real situations that happened in the holocausts. Things like this can really make people question what is true or not. Things can be labeled as fiction or nonfiction, but no one can ever know whether that is actually the reality.

Anonymous said...

Non-fiction and fiction are labels put on books to categorize what type of story they are. Non-fiction novels are written based off a true story whereas fiction novels are fake tales one has imagined. Based off of these descriptions the answer to this question would appear simple, however the answer is much deeper than that.
When one reads a non-fiction novel, because of the label the reader is more inclined to believe the story. The experiences of the novel appear real and believable all because of the tiny label. One who reads a novel categorized as fiction will believe the tale is fake, only imagined. However, that is not always the case. Deanna Kizis is a writer who writes fiction novels such as "How to Meet Cute Boys". Her novel is based off of her experiences as a young girl meeting boys. The novel uses her awkward encounters with fictional characters. The novel portrays events and experiences that happened in reality, just like "Adrift" by Callahan. The difference is Callahan wrote it as his story, where Deanna wrote it so that her comical experiences may help another young girl just like her.
As a group we decided that non-fiction is no more the truth than fiction. We as readers only believe that non-fiction novels are true because of their label. A non-fiction novel could be filled with accurate facts and figures, however to make the novel more interesting the writer may throw in information or events that never really occurred; which fiction novels can be just like as well. No genre of a novel is more the truth than the other. Any novel can speak to a reader and change their life, truth or fiction.
CEM

Anonymous said...

When comparing nonfiction to fiction, nonfiction is an account of a subject which is presented as a fact. Non-fictional work can either give a true or false account of the actual subject. Most authors of specific novels generally assume that their work can be considered the truth at their time of the composition. When presenting a non-ficton piece of work, it has been known that simplicity, clarity and directness are the most important aspects in a non fiction novel. On the other hand, in a fiction novel the writer believes that most readers will follow and interpret the indirect information presented in the novel.
The truth obviously lies somewhere in both non fiction and fiction. Although fiction is based on authors presenting their researched work into a novel, some of it may be the truth from the individual. Because such events presented in fiction novels may seem more real then events in non fiction, people tend to become more intrested in fictional for the simple fact of interest. Non fictional are certainly truthful ideas from one individual who expresses their own thoughts/emotions/events etc into a story to interst their readers.
When distinguishing if non fiction has more truth than fiction, they both contain truth in a sense; it is simply what you choose to read or believe in.

Anonymous said...

When comparing nonfiction to fiction, nonfiction is an account of a subject which is presented as a fact. Non-fictional work can either give a true or false account of the actual subject. Most authors of specific novels generally assume that their work can be considered the truth at their time of the composition. When presenting a non-ficton piece of work, it has been known that simplicity, clarity and directness are the most important aspects in a non fiction novel. On the other hand, in a fiction novel the writer believes that most readers will follow and interpret the indirect information presented in the novel.
The truth obviously lies somewhere in both non fiction and fiction. Although fiction is based on authors presenting their researched work into a novel, some of it may be the truth from the individual. Because such events presented in fiction novels may seem more real then events in non fiction, people tend to become more intrested in fictional for the simple fact of interest. Non fictional are certainly truthful ideas from one individual who expresses their own thoughts/emotions/events etc into a story to interst their readers.
When distinguishing if non fiction has more truth than fiction, they both contain truth in a sense; it is simply what you choose to read or believe in.

--PIGLET

Anonymous said...

Nonfiction stories are all about the truth. They feature fact after fact after fact. However, this does not mean that fiction stories are nothing but made up things. Fiction stories can often present a truth of sorts in a way that nonfiction stories cannot. Fiction stories tell a story that brings out the truth in life through what would seem to be an impossible story. The greatest example of this is Yann Martel's Life of Pi.
In Life of Pi, Pi describes the story of his life at a zoo and his trip to Canada by boat. However, things become very complicated when the boat sinks and Pi finds himself on a lifeboat with a tiger. Pi lives on this lifeboat for 227 and is interviewed by insurance agents on exactly what happened. When Pi explains his story they find it unbelievable that he lived for 227 days with a 450-pound tiger. Pi then admits to lying about his story and he himself was actually the tiger. The truth was in the story, but told in a different way.
Another example of truth behind a story is in George Orwell's novel Animal Farm. Animal Farm is a satire of the events happening in the USSR in the early 1930's and 1940's. However, instead of using humans as characters, Orwell uses farm animals. To those who have never heard of the Russian Revolution, they would think of it as a simple story of animals revolting. Even those that do know of it still feel that the story is nothing but a children's story. As Bernard Grofman says, "This essay has a very simple aim: to rescue Animal Farm from the often repeated claim that it is merely a children's story and to demonstrate how closely its events are tied to the events of Soviet political history" (Grofman). Grofman wrote an essay on the historical significance of Animal Farm and how closely related the two were. Although Animal Farm is a fictional story, there is still much truth behind it. The truth is presented in a way that a nonfiction story would not be able to present.
Fiction stories can be said to be more entertaining than nonfiction stories. However, this does not always mean that there is not some sort of truth behind them. Fiction stories present truth in a completely different way. This is evident in Life of Pi and Animal Farm. In both a story is told that seems impossible, but when looked at froma different view, each person or character represents something in real life. This truth is something greater that can only be shown through a fiction book.

eddie pinetti said...

Nonfiction is said to be a piece of writing in which the truth is said. Fiction is a made up piece of writing though it fiction may be based off of reality. Nonfiction reminds me of when you are in a conflict and you only hear one-side of the story, i believe that there is a bias in the writing. Though fiction is quite similar, to me fiction has more of a broad retrospect. With nonfiction the truth is exposed, but not the whole truth. For example, our history books believed to be nonfiction are biased towards the United States and our beliefs, who is to say that what we say who really won or lost certain battles. We believe what is written because of the label of nonfiction. Just because of that label you are inclined to believe in what you read. Fiction isn't taken as seriously also because of that label, even though fiction is finely based upon reality and the "truth". So in the sense of whether or not nonfiction is more of the truth than fiction, I don't believe so. Nonfiction can be as deceiving in their lies as fiction.

Anonymous said...

Group 5

It would seem that the easiest answer would be to say yes, nonfiction contains more of the truth then fiction does. This comes from seeing that fictional events aren't real and therefore aren't truthful while nonfiction literature has to contain reality and contain the truth. This is one way to look at it. But there is a difference between what one knows as reality and what one knows to be true. Someone, a writer for instance, could write a story with them being the main character who, once again for example, gets into deep trouble by making bad decisions. This author knows to take these expieriences not from their own personal timeline but from researching and examining the lives of people who have suffered the same fate. They are starting a story that includes no reality what so ever and yet can still include hints and little splashes of truth within the book. It could call for someone to say there is no truth in this story because the character is not real and didn't expierience these trials and tribulations first hand. But if an author studies enough they can include their reasearch and their findings of how reality treats these situations and include them in their work. I believe it would include just enough truth, not the character but the situations and troubles people expierience, that could prove the possibility that fiction can include some truth within it. Another example could be a story with a moral. The tortoise and the hare; does anyone really believe two animals had the smarts to talk and decided to race each other? No. But people listen to the story time and time again because it contains truth. Someone who speeds and is over confident usually loses to someone who is consistent. It's the way humans act and make these lessons real and because of that it becomes truth. To examine the other side we could have a nonfictional story that could contain no truth whatsoever. Another human concept that is common throughout the entire world is lying. I personally can't get through the day without lying once, it's sad but the truth. Nonfiction is based on reality, actual events that have occured and someone within the book or the process of writing the book expierienced them first hand. It is naive to say that every single detail in a nonfictional story would be perfect to the date that this important event occured. Some can't even remember what they did two weeks ago but some can recall events that are years in the past. An example could be someone recalling past event in a war they took place in. The war, the soldiers names, the battles, the conditions, and the deaths are all reality. They are all the truth and no one denies that. But could someone perhaps make a smaller mistake? There were only 26 men in this platoon when someone states there were 59. There was no brigade called the Greasy Shipmen. These things, though picky and almost irrelevant to recieving the truth are what can make a nonfictional story lose some truth. The truth is fact, something that is what actually occured and is not based on words but actual expieriences and witnessing. Though these things are little they are deviant from the truth.
So one cannot simply state that nonfiction has to carry the truth more then fiction. In some small cases it is simply the opposite. One can only say that truth doesn't decide why we discover literature. Would I still read a fictional novel if I found that it included truthful events? Yes. Would I still read a nonfictional novel it contained some fraud? Depends on how big the lie. Fiction and nonfiction have their definitions as what is real and not real but no matter if something is real or not real both still have the ability to contain the truth or not contain it equally. I feel that they are two different subjects and either fictional or nonfictional events can contain more truth.

Anonymous said...

~The Spice Gils~
The term nonfiction is a label that individuals put on a story or novel that has actaully taken place. The term fiction is a label that is put on stories or novels that have not taken place in reality, but can parallel actual events in the past, present, and future. Actual events have occured and cannot be replaced with their fiction counterparts, however who is to say that the justification of the fiction plots do not coincide with reality. The holocaust, for example is one of the most devastating, horrific events known to man. Biographies such as The Story of Anne Frank, and Night by Elie Wiesal vividly portray the inhumanity faced by many, likewise the historical fiction novel Four Pebbles, also pertaining to the holocaust.
In the life of Pi, Pi tells two stories during his interview, one story without the animal( Nonfiction-more realistic), and another story with the animals( fiction-less realistic).Each story with or without the animals, parallel each other. Mr. Okamoto makes a connection to this."His stories match… the Taiwanese sailor is the zebra, his mother is the orangutan, the cook is… the hyena- which means he’s the tiger! Yes. The tiger killed the hyena- and the Frenchman- just as he killed the cook” (Martel,311 ). The parallels of these two stories display the symbolism behind each characters motives. In the stoy with the animals, thesy took a human form, displaying seasickness, Also Pi describes the arrival of the Orangutan as a glory to behold. In the story with the humans, the humans display the characteristic of animal behavior.
Adrift and The life of Pi are prime examples of parallelism. each story displays waht seems to be the truth, however the lables help us to distinguish. Each charcter faced death in the eye, but survived through similar tactics.
Whether fiction, or nonfiction, each work will bring out the truth.

Blue Steel said...

The Zoolanders!!!
When it comes to whether nonfiction holds more truth than fiction, it can be argued either way, however, the Zoolanders believe this fact to be true, nonfiction does contain more truth within the story. Fiction is known as a story that can be based off fact and may contain facts, but the situation never truly existed. The writer of the story uses what he believs to be true, it is thriugh his own interpretaion, and so the story might not have the same point of view or truth as a nonfictional story may have. The reader is also free to interpret the story in their own way. Different parts of the story and certain characters may have different meanings for each individual reader. However, if the story is nonfiction, then it is told through the eyes of someone who actually experienced these events or who knows of what truly had happened. What took place is truly what took place, there is no story between the lines or second meaning. It cannot be seen as anything other than what the story says. For example, in Life of Pi, Pi tells two stories. One may be seen as fiction and one may be seen as fact. The factual story, the story told at the end involving actual people, makes sense and there is no other way that it could be seen. The characters do not stand for anything else, they are simply characters. However, the fictional story involving the animals can be viewed in many different ways, depending on the reader's opinion. Because it is fictional, chacters and events can stand for different hings completely. for example, our group saw the different animals as different religions and Pi's battle to overcome them and still please/worship God (which we declared was the Tiger). Nonfiction conatians no second meaning while fiction can be twisted and warped to stand for many different ideas, and so nonfiction contains more truh.